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7月18日，尹海濤教授接受中國(guó)國(guó)際電視臺(tái)（CGTN）采訪，就能源安全和短缺問題、中國(guó)可再生能源的未來(lái)發(fā)展和關(guān)鍵點(diǎn)等方面闡述見解與建議。尹海濤教授指出，提升新能源消納能力只能依靠創(chuàng)新，不只是技術(shù)上面的創(chuàng)新，還包括商業(yè)模式和管理層面的創(chuàng)新。

Q：Professor YIN, great to have you on the show. We start by asking you what are the new trends that we are seeing in renewable energy development herein China.

請(qǐng)問尹海濤教授，中國(guó)可再生能源發(fā)展的新趨勢(shì)是什么？

尹海濤 ：I think there are two things that are going to happen in the future. First, we are going to see a very strong growth of renewable investment in China in the next five to ten years. We have already set up an ambitious goal for renewable development. According to the government documents, by 2030, more than 25% of the energy need in China should be fulfilled by non-fossil energy, and more particularly, the generation capacity of solar farms or wind farms is going to reach 1.2 billion KW. Therefore, in the next five to ten years, we are going to see a stronger growth of renewable investment, which is the first trend we are going to observe.

Second, if you ask what the most important challenge is for renewable development ten years ago, the answer would be: it is very expensive. But nowadays renewable energy is cheap. In the future, we must make sure that the electricity generated by solar farms and wind farms can be used by the industrial users or residential users. In other words, what’s more important in the future is to make sure we can integrate the renewable energy into the national grid. Thank you.

未來(lái)新能源發(fā)電的爆發(fā)性增長(zhǎng)是具有確定性的。我認(rèn)為將會(huì)出現(xiàn)兩種趨勢(shì)。第一，中國(guó)的新能源投資在未來(lái)的5到10年會(huì)有非常巨大的增長(zhǎng)。目前我們已制定了非常明確的可再生能源發(fā)展目標(biāo)。根據(jù)政府文件，截止2030年，中國(guó)25%以上的能源需求將由非化石能源來(lái)滿足，太陽(yáng)能或風(fēng)力發(fā)電廠的發(fā)電能力將達(dá)到12億千瓦。因此，在未來(lái)的5到10年，我們會(huì)看到新能源方面的投資將更為強(qiáng)勁，這是第一個(gè)趨勢(shì)。

其次，新能源的發(fā)展，未來(lái)的主要挑戰(zhàn)是新能源電力的消納。在過去可再生能源發(fā)電非常昂貴，但是現(xiàn)在卻很便宜。在未來(lái)，我們必須確保光伏電站和風(fēng)電站發(fā)出的電力能夠被工業(yè)用戶或老百姓使用。換句話說(shuō)，未來(lái)的主要挑戰(zhàn)是新能源電力的消納。

Q：What role do you think renewable energy development to play in ensuring energy security and how effective is it in solving energy shortages?

您認(rèn)為可再生能源發(fā)展對(duì)保障能源安全有何作用?對(duì)解決能源短缺問題有何效果?

尹海濤 ：I think the role that renewable energy would play is very critical. Why is that the case? China is not very rich in energy reserves, and we don’t have much oil or natural gas. If we look at the data, about 70% of the petroleum oil consumed in China is imported from other countries. As for the natural gas, the number is between 40% to 50%. So, in the future if we want to get rid of our reliance on international importation of petroleum oil and natural gas, we don’t have many choices on the table. We have coal in China. But when we use more coal, we are going to have more concerns on global warming, on carbon emission. Basically, the only technologically feasible and commercially viable solution, for the time being, is renewable energy. Therefore, the rapid development of renewable energy is very critical to solve the energy shortage issue in China in the future.

發(fā)展新能源對(duì)解決中國(guó)近期的能源短缺問題至關(guān)重要。我這么說(shuō)的原因在于，數(shù)據(jù)表明，中國(guó)的石油和天然氣儲(chǔ)存量并不大。以石油為例，中國(guó)消費(fèi)的石油約有70%是從其他國(guó)家進(jìn)口的，天然氣則是在40% - 50%，這也是中國(guó)能源安全的一個(gè)關(guān)鍵挑戰(zhàn)。因此，在未來(lái)，若想擺脫對(duì)國(guó)際石油和天然氣進(jìn)口的依賴，我們沒有太多的選擇。如果大量使用煤炭，會(huì)有碳排放、或者全球變暖的擔(dān)憂。因此，目前唯一在技術(shù)上可行、在商業(yè)上可行的解決方案是可再生能源。因此，發(fā)展新能源對(duì)解決中國(guó)近期的能源短缺問題至關(guān)重要。

Q：Professor YIN, when we talk about this, may be the hardest thing that everyone can think of is how to balance among economic growth, environment conservation, and energy security, especially at a time when the world is faced with energy shortages. So, what are the key points that policy makers must take into consideration to achieve these goals?

我們目前面臨的挑戰(zhàn)可能是如何在經(jīng)濟(jì)增長(zhǎng)、環(huán)境保護(hù)和能源安全之間取得平衡，特別是在當(dāng)今世界面臨能源短缺的情況下。那么，要實(shí)現(xiàn)這些目標(biāo)，政策制定者必須考慮的關(guān)鍵點(diǎn)是什么?

尹海濤 ：I totally agree with you. It’s very important to achieve environmental protection and economic growth at the same time. It’s a critical challenge for human society. That is why we emphasized sustainable development so heavily during the last ten years and will continue to do so many years into the future. Achieving sustainable development is very difficult but it’s a future that everybody desires. We must make efforts. If you ask me for the answer to this challenge, the keyword is “Innovation”, not only technology innovation but also innovations of business models. I trust that if we unite together to make more innovations on technology and business models, we will have a more sustainable future.

同時(shí)實(shí)現(xiàn)社會(huì)發(fā)展，環(huán)境保護(hù)與經(jīng)濟(jì)增長(zhǎng)確實(shí)至關(guān)重要，這也是對(duì)人類社會(huì)的重大挑戰(zhàn)，也是我們?cè)谶^去十年和未來(lái)許多年強(qiáng)調(diào)可持續(xù)發(fā)展的原因。當(dāng)下全面實(shí)現(xiàn)可持續(xù)發(fā)展非常困難，但可持續(xù)發(fā)展是每個(gè)人都渴望的。面對(duì)此挑戰(zhàn)，最關(guān)鍵的就是創(chuàng)新。不僅僅是技術(shù)創(chuàng)新，也要致力于商業(yè)模式和管理層面的創(chuàng)新。我相信，如果我們團(tuán)結(jié)起來(lái)在技術(shù)上和商業(yè)模式上進(jìn)行更多的創(chuàng)新，未來(lái)我們一定會(huì)實(shí)現(xiàn)可持續(xù)發(fā)展。

Q：Professor YIN, in China’s 14th Five Year Plan, the country has vowed make quick progress and achieve a leap in quality development in the renewable energy industry, what do you think could be the key achievements in this regard?

在中國(guó)的“十四五”規(guī)劃中，國(guó)家承諾在可再生能源行業(yè)實(shí)現(xiàn)質(zhì)的飛躍，您認(rèn)為這方面的關(guān)鍵成就可能是什么?

尹海濤 ：For this question, I want to get back to a point I mentioned earlier, which is, the critical challenge in the next few years is to integrate the renewable generation into the national grid. And for that purpose, we must do innovation.

The first innovation is technological innovation. To make sure a large-scale integration of renewable energy, we must rely on technology innovation, such as energy storage, smart grid technology, and hydrogen technology. What’s more, we need do some innovation on market trading system, and how we trade electricity on the grid system.

The second one is innovation on business models. Recently, we focused on distributed renewable generation instead of large-scale concentrated renewable generation. We see more examples of combining renewable generation with livestock farming, fishery industry and many others.

If we can achieve these two innovations, I am sure that we will have a high quality of renewable development in the future.

關(guān)于這個(gè)問題，我想回到我之前提到的一點(diǎn)，未來(lái)的主要挑戰(zhàn)是新能源電力的消納。提升新能源消納能力只能依靠創(chuàng)新。不只是技術(shù)上面的創(chuàng)新（例如儲(chǔ)能和智能電網(wǎng)），還包括商業(yè)模式和管理層面的創(chuàng)新（例如微電網(wǎng)系統(tǒng)優(yōu)化、漁光互補(bǔ)等分布式利用）。如果我們能做到這兩方面的創(chuàng)新，我相信我們會(huì)實(shí)現(xiàn)可再生能源的高質(zhì)量發(fā)展。

來(lái)源：CGTN、安泰國(guó)際合作與交流辦公室

翻譯：胥琦

排版：陳穎

審核：閆思楠